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13 Apr 2020

Chronicles of a Numismatist: Can’t Wait Part 2

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This is amazing. If you recall I had posted that I had a coin at PCGS that I was awaiting to continue processing once the virus and group restrictions were lifted. Well I checked my account with PCGS the next day or after and BEHOLD my coin was pushing through.It had been there for close to 1 1/2 months or close to it, and again the virus was at fault not PCGS so I was accepting the length of time. I just couldn't believe my coin was being processed. Whoever went that day to work the orders that were ready and possibly were waiting for initial processing I have to THANK YOU. You risked a ton by doing such and no matter what I am eternally Grateful. On this Post Easter early morning, Happy Belated Easter my fellow Numismatists, Thank You to everyone at PCGS and Collectors Universe. I pray all of you are safe and well.Below are the pictures of my Mint Error Strike Thru VAM (still researching which one) 1921-P Morgan Dollar. Enjoy!

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Mike

Level 7

Im glad it worked out for you. We were all pulling for y ou. Im stuck with N GC andneight tokens so i know how you felt. Well its home were it belongs. Take care of it. You will remember two things yeqrs from now. The cirus and it holding up your beauty. Lots of luck. My motto is never give up!!

user_7180

Level 5

Nice coin and write up with your story. Good luck on the VAM attribution.

user_14581

Level 3

Thank You. I did receive it last week. My dilemma now is whether or not I submit to ANACS for further attribution for VAM before or after I can see if there is a different error this ‘21 qualifies for? My gut says hold off. Get ANACS to show both correct Error and VAM attribution and then see if PCGS will be willing to crossover whole grade and all.

Longstrider

Level 6

Nice sentiment you have. I like that coin. Let us know what you get and what VAM number you decide on. Great point you make Sam. Thanks.

user_14581

Level 3

I most certainly will. As of now it is PCGS MS63 Mint Error Strike Thru. I will keep up to date as this coin’s adventure continues.

Numinerd9

Level 5

Nice example of a strike-through error, user_14581! I don't know why, but I see the majority of any kind of Morgan dollar errors appear on 1921 (P,D, or S) Morgans; maybe due to such a high mintage with so many surviving specimens? I have a couple with strike-throughs on the reverse (missing letters) due to grease-filled filled dies, but I remember years ago having a struck-thru sawdust obverse specimen, with some of the bits of sawdust still retained. I seem to remember that wood chips or sawdust was used to clean dies and/or planchets during at least one point in the minting process. But for sawdust bits to be retained on a struck coin that got released, who knows when this debris got attached. Thanks for sharing these pics, and yes it is a VAM - ALL Morgan and Peace dollars are VAMs by categorical definition, but not all VAMs are worth a premium of course. -Sam Gelberd, ANA Numismatic Educator.

user_14581

Level 3

Mr.Gelberd, Thank You very much for your words of wisdom. Starting from latter then moving up, I agree 100% with the VAM quote you left me and I will make certain to remember it moving forward. I like VAMs but because there are so many, many you have to squint or break out the high power magnifying glass/ microscope, I don’t dabble in the VAM too much. For this coin I dabbled because not only is it a Strike Thru (I still say lam error) but it is the 17-berry variety and for me that narrows the VAM field for the P issue considerably. So for a neat toned 21, Mint Error and possibly VAM? I figured why not and won the auction. I don’t know if you are interested in horology but on You Tube ALL the fine Maison Time Piece Manufacturers and Custom Designers use wood to polish the intricate metal pieces of their fine time pieces. Also saw dust too for the bezels. So I can easily see the pre-64 coinage have wood or saw dust ingrained from striking. But the fun part for our hobby is to determine if it was debris from the die or from the planchet. Woodn’t ( so sorry for my horrible humor. I do blame my Father for passing it down to me ) it be a fantastic white paper/ article concerning the examples of the states of Mint Errors with the Wood Debris ingrained or caused the strike thru error? That sounds interesting just typing it ... and I might have to see something here. (the harmonic oscillator in my brain is officially moving).

It's Mokie

Level 6

That is a beauty, let us know when you finally have slab in hand.

user_14581

Level 3

I have the slab as we speak, PCGS MS 63 Mint Error designated but am working on the VAM attribution as we speak. I will definitely keep everyone up to date.

Golfer

Level 5

Will be very nice when things get back to more normal. Looking forward to the numismatic world getting back to normal. Good luck on your submissions.

user_14581

Level 3

Thank You. I just received an email from PCGS today notifying they are reopening their doors, but strategically. I am sure their mail room is working over time. What a fun time to be a grader I bet. All the work and coins back logged, not stopping, would have to be a fun dilemma to resolve.

coinsbygary

Level 5

That's a very attractive 21-Morgan! The strike-thru is very interesting.

user_14581

Level 3

Thank You and I agree. I am studying it as we speak and working on an idea... I am on this goose chase with this particular “Strike Thru” due to it’s complexities and what would be “perfect storm” chances that I think something more is at play. I like perfect storm anomalies and if I am lucky to receive it, then Great! But I think something more is at play in terms of the error and the Market Grade will have to be “Strike Thru” until I can come up with over whelming evidence otherwise. And i would also make note too, it is not that I am saying I have some super rare/ mega dollar error, but rather I am saying the designation of Strike Thru is one that I “get” because of the speed of market grading but technical terms it is in correct; because I nor the previous submitter to NGC had a definitive Mint Error attributional term to submit with the coin it is by default a “Strike Thru”. I just would like to see if it turns out to be something different based on what I am seeing and can prove or show as a hypothesis which is strong enough to receive the “correct” attribution, fingers crossed.

Mike

Level 7

I wish you luck. I hear they were still closed. I hope your right and get it!!

user_14581

Level 3

Yes Sir, Thank You. They were closed however they were able to send my coin, as I guessing they were getting back logged very fast. I will keep up to date on future actions taken in more submissions of this coin.

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