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13 Dec 2017

45 years ago today

Medals | Haney

On December 13, forty five years ago the last step taken by a man on the moon occurred. Yes that was 1972, the mission Apollo 17, and that lucky guy was Gene Cernan, and like so many of these childhood heroes he passed away on the 16th of this year at the age of 82. Of course as Numismatist we have many avenues to commemorate the Apollo missions. Some items come at a very modest entry fee like a 72 Ike Dollar, as the reverse is basically identical to the Apollo 11 mission patch. Should you want an item that has actually travel to the moon the provenance of any such numismatic item can add thousands to the price putting it as much out of the reach as the moon is to most of us. Then there is a small Franklin mint piece that gives you the opportunity to own something at the fraction of the price that may have went to the moon.

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12 Dec 2017

Sears centennial token

Tokens | user_9894

1986, Sears celebrates its 100 years in business with a token made from copper from the Statue of Liberty. Material was from the renovation of the statue. Sear appears to be struggling to stay afloat at this time, so it may the last hurrah for them.

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12 Dec 2017

We're Tokens Legal Tender?

Tokens | Mike Burns

Hi everyone. So I proposed a question were tokens legal tender. The answer is no. However tell that to the people who used the tokens below. One says pay the bearer one penny. Or an exchange of coinage for a purchase. You buy something for half a penny and receive a half in return. What just happened? Coinage changed hands during a purchase of an item. Legal Tender. Who says? Well the Monarchy does yet they will not release legal tender so consumers use these. No taxes on something not legal tender is there? The civil war tokens. Many didn't have denominations on them some did. It didn't make a difference because I could redeem that grocery token for goods in that store. A transaction took place. Someone bought an item with that token. Legal Tender. No. Who says? The government said. But there's not enough legal tender to go around people have to live. To eat, buy clothes. I wonder if you asked them if it was legal tender they would say of course! The other two are half penny's. More tokens with a denomination on it. You could buy many things for a penny. But how it's not legal tender. Store owners and merchants had to survive. Was anyone ever arrested for buying goods and services with tokens? Never heard of it have you? But ask a coin collector today you already know the answer no way we're tokens legal tender. What is legal tender. Coinage put out by a government to buy and purchase goods. But if a government doesn't do what it's supposed to do there obligation how do people live?Tokens. Thousands of them in England and the United States and other countries. So I will sum up my thoughts. If a token is used to purchase goods to live on then i would consider that legal tender. Especially if it carries a denomination. But what is backing it? Nothing but faith like today's dollar. Interesting. We immediately say no it's not legal tender yet there something that sustained thousands of men, women, children and store merchants for years and years. What do you think. Think outside the box. Thanks for taking time. I do have a reason why I asked. Comments. I'm interested in comments.Remember if you can have a transaction and not be arrested then nothing illegal took place correct. You know my answer even though it's just a theory. I believe during these times they were legal tender simply because there was none. Enjoy. Mr. Harper of the Numismatic News stated "if a coin is not legal tender then it is not a coin" this was in reference to the 1913 so called nickels. This should prove interesting.

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11 Dec 2017

Brand new to ANA

| user_78300

Hey everyone! I just started on the ANA sites and was wondering if any of you guys can help me out with what to do or try on this site. Thanks.

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11 Dec 2017

Guide Books For Grading Conder Tokens

Tokens | Mike Burns

Hi everyone I want to keep this as short as possible. I have stated in the past that third party graders make mistake with conder tokens. Yes they make many but it's not due to a lack of training or what tools were used or what grade of copper. It's not even due to a lack of books. You see people who do not collect conders wouldn't naturally have a clue of how to do it or even start. There are books third party graders have. Written by collectors in the nineteenth century and even collectors in the eighteenth century. As time went on more research was done museum's studied planchets they studied the presses that were used. But the most important tools in grading or placing these correctly into an slab is just like a silver eagle. They look for the same mistakes that you find on regular modern coins. Even like civil war tokens are graded the same way. Logic plays a big part. There's no secret grading book. Grading is a judgement call. It doesn't matter if it's an ancient coin or modern coin. They get the same grade based on there condition. Some things are learned by experience. Not a book. There's a reason I own many many conder tokens in mint state. It's called experience. I know what to look for. Yes I have books but none on how to grade a conder token. Never heard of one. But then again I never heard of a book that will tell you how to grade any coin properly with the right grade. You would need a house just to keep them. There are books on grading but your not going to get a job reading them. You have to donate your time and experience. You don't take a course at the ANA and two weeks later wind up at NGC. That's not the real world. The real world according to a great author R.S. Yeoman when he was asked the question what makes a good grader. His response "A good magnifying glass, the right light and twenty years experience". Perfect answer. You can buy all the books ever written on grading coins but if you don't have logic or the experience or a method or the tools you need. You see you need more than a book. Just accept the grade and move on. Because if you don't have a sound argument you lose shutout. It's a cold business some graders will give the benefit of the doubt. Then there are those who believe it's this grade and that's it. And if you can't live with that don't bother on sending them in. Sorry to sound so cold but that's the business. They make the rules we live by them. We don't have to like it. Mike.

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10 Dec 2017

Union Pacific token

Tokens | user_9894

Here is my Union Pacific token, I had three, but I donated 2 to an auction of railroad memorabilia. Mine is 1934, but there was a 1933. You can read about this token in the September issue of The Numismatist magazine. I have had the tokens for many years and didn't think anyone was interested in them, but they are making a comeback and at auction they sold for $20.00! Money went to the Division 4 MCR of the National Model Railroad Association. You will notice the reverse, after flipping vertically that the reverse is rotated about 45 degrees on my token.

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09 Dec 2017

*1783 Nova Constellatio Pattern*

Coins-United States | Kepi

I added this unique piece to my collection a few months ago when I won it at auction! I think this coin is so cool! It is a 1783 Nova Constellatio Pattern Coin. Pointed Rays, Small US. This one is graded by PCGS as Genuine with Environmental Damage-VF Detail. I researched for more information on this piece, but didn't find out to much. What I did learn was that it represents one of the first patterns for coinage in the United States. It was designed by Benjamin Dudley for Gouverneur Morris to carry out his ideas for a decimal coinage system. These pattern pieces were the first attempt at a decimal ratio and were the forerunners of our present system of money values. Ultimately these coins never advanced beyond the pattern stage. These all had the date of 1783. That's it folks...and most of that came from the Red Book. All I know is that is beautiful and very old! If anyone can add more information about this coin please feel free to do so. Thanks for your comments!

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09 Dec 2017

A complete gift

Coins-United States | CoinLady

When considering holiday gifts, there's nothing like a set of coins. No, I'm not thinking of a museum-quality collection, but a set of coins that a budding collector or history buff could find interesting.

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